Харьковчане за электротранспорт

ТРАНСПОРТ ХАРЬКОВА => Проблемы ГЭТа, разное => Тема начата: Slavon[KissFm] от 10 Декабрь 2009, 12:30:31

Название: Нехватка водителей
Отправлено: Slavon[KissFm] от 10 Декабрь 2009, 12:30:31
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Название: Re: Нехватка водителей
Отправлено: Максимильян от 10 Декабрь 2009, 12:48:36
А вот и официальные цифры:
 Сегодня КП «Горэлектротранс» не хватает 40 водителей троллейбусов, 35 водителей трамваев и около 80 кондукторов. Об этом сегодня сообщил Генеральный директор коммунального предприятия Сергей Почепецкий.

По его словам, сейчас на предприятии числится 3 620 человек.

За последний месяц с КП «Горэлектротранс» уволилось порядка 70 человек.
 http://www.city.kharkov.ua/ru/news/index/

Название: Re: Нехватка водителей
Отправлено: kristalnacht от 11 Декабрь 2009, 20:23:11
Ну если и дальше не будут платить зп, то к весне-лету никого не останется.
Название: Re: Нехватка водителей
Отправлено: Night_story от 15 Декабрь 2009, 09:48:42
Нас оточують дибіли:
 Є Правила Дорожнього Руху, у яких чітко зазначено, що водієм трамваю/тролейбусу може бути людина, якій виповнилось 18 років. У нас на роботу беруть після досягнення 21-річного віку. Питання-чому?
 Запитував у відділи кадрів ХТТУ: Чи можу піти на курси водія тролейбуса з подальшим працевлаштуванням (мені 19 і хотів тимчасово попрацювати водієм тролейбуса)
 Відповідь: до 21 року ми не беремо на таку роботу
 Я: Чому?
 Відповідь: Щоб ти нам увесь рухомий склад побив?
 Я: А якщо серйозно?
 Відповідь: Нам ДАЇ зобороняє

Таким чином що ми маємо? А маємо ми ситуацію, в якій дітки, що закінчили ПТУ або технікум не можуть працевлаштуватися на цю роботу одразу після закінчення навчального закладу. Вони йдуть працювати на барабан, або тирити гаманці з карманів, або ще кудись ідуть....
 І повірте мені: дуже мало таких, хто через 2 роки повертаєтся до ХТТУ.....

Название: Re: Нехватка водителей
Отправлено: Nokia от 15 Декабрь 2009, 19:57:34
а на канаве слесарем -------- слабо?????????
Название: Re: Нехватка водителей
Отправлено: Yufit от 15 Декабрь 2009, 20:07:52
Quote (alex)
слабо?????????

 Не сколько слабо сколько бесплатно.
Название: Re: Нехватка водителей
Отправлено: Nokia от 15 Декабрь 2009, 20:12:58
так вот и нечего на воров в линии кивать , дай нормальную зарплату , а потом спрашивай!
Название: Re: Нехватка водителей
Отправлено: Night_story от 15 Декабрь 2009, 20:47:40
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Ну так в 21 на курсы поступайте. В чем проблема? А 2 года на барабане поработайте...

 Життя затягує..... Якщо я попрацюю на барабані 2 роки, то я ніколи вже не піду до ХТТУ.
 І справа банальна- гроші.
 Просто є фанати, і таких людей я знаю. Так ось, такий дитячий фанатизм до 20 рочків проходить
Название: Re: Нехватка водителей
Отправлено: Night_story от 16 Декабрь 2009, 08:48:59
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Вы знаете, у меня этот "фанатизм" даже к 23-м не прошел. Пугает одно: не столько маленькая ставка водителя, а то, что даже эту маленькую ставку не платят. Платили бы-я бы работал в ГЭТ даже не смотря на маленькую з/п. А воровать и быть "героем дня" в ветке о поддельных билетах мне не хочется-религия не позволяет . Жить же без материального оправдания не могу-кушать хоцца.

 Тому я і кажу, шо створені такі умови, що працювати водіями неможливо. І бажаючі є, але нема стимулу працювати, існуючі ж - розбігаються і правильно роЧёрт, бо працювати за те, що тобі мозги трахати будуть нікому не хочеться....
Название: Re: Нехватка водителей
Отправлено: wwKiraww от 21 Декабрь 2009, 16:21:01
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 Просто є фанати, і таких людей я знаю. Так ось, такий дитячий фанатизм до 20 рочків проходить

 Если вы действительно фанат-дождётесь!По моему мнению,быть водителем должно быть что то в генах!Одного желания мало,поистине нужен фанатизм!Вы посмотрите на наших водителей,работать в не погоду,на ужасных машинах,без зарплаты! И если вы фанат-присоединяйтесь к ним!Без таких фанатов наш ГЭТ долго не протянет,а нам он очень нужен!
Название: Re: Нехватка водителей
Отправлено: KTM-5 от 22 Декабрь 2009, 15:13:34
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По моему мнению,быть водителем должно быть что то в генах!

 Это про меня, жаль 18 лет нету! smile
Название: Re: Нехватка водителей
Отправлено: Yufit от 22 Декабрь 2009, 15:26:33
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жаль 18 лет нету

 21.
Название: Re: Нехватка водителей
Отправлено: Night_story от 22 Декабрь 2009, 19:02:33
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21.

 22. (Медкомиссия+курсы)
Название: Re: Нехватка водителей
Отправлено: Nokia от 24 Декабрь 2009, 15:44:08
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Жить же без материального оправдания не могу-кушать хоцца.
тоже правда _ комуто выгодно что-бы все так и оставалось!я знаю 12 водителей которые теперь работают продавцами на Барабане!!!
Название: Re: Нехватка водителей
Отправлено: Trolzaforever от 24 Декабрь 2009, 17:16:11
мы в разных странах живём??? почему в Донецке с 18???
 http://vkontakte.ru/video-6164742_131171187#pages/10
Название: Re: Нехватка водителей
Отправлено: Киевский от 01 Январь 2010, 13:44:42
Потому что мы живём в разных городах. В Киеве с 21-го с недавнего времени, зря конечно так сделали, теперь 3 года сиди, суши вёсла, если хочешь пойти именно на водителя электротранспорта... Хотя не исключено, что взятка может решить этот вопрос.
Название: Re: Нехватка водителей
Отправлено: KTM-5 от 23 Февраль 2010, 16:48:32
Короче нафиг! После технаря сразу на ЖД или в метро, туда с 18 берут и не выдрачутся!
Название: Re: Нехватка водителей
Отправлено: MARS от 26 Февраль 2010, 11:46:09
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Короче нафиг! После технаря сразу на ЖД или в метро, туда с 18 берут и не выдрачутся!

 Попробуйте еще устроиться на работу biggrin Это очень проблемная темка....
Название: Re: Нехватка водителей
Отправлено: mateo от 12 Май 2011, 09:14:38
Добрый день. Кто нибудь может ответить на вопрос работает ли сейчас учкомбинат ГЭТ? Есть ли набор на курсы водителей ТБ? Стоимость и продолжительность обучения?
Название: Re: Нехватка водителей
Отправлено: Юрик от 13 Май 2011, 11:34:38
За такую работу тебя должны бесплатно учить, кормить, поить... smile
Название: Re: Нехватка водителей
Отправлено: Slavon[KissFm] от 14 Май 2011, 11:43:45
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За такую работу тебя должны бесплатно учить, кормить, поить...

 + есть даже стипендию =)
Название: Re: Нехватка водителей
Отправлено: Веталь от 23 Ноябрь 2012, 15:45:27
Считаю, что с 21 года - эта оптимальный возраст. Так как работа - ответственная. В 18 лет допускать к управлению подвижным составом - это бред.
 В метро - в 18 лет только примут в Техшколу метрополитена, в которой проучиться надо год. Это уже 19 лет. А потом работать помощником машиниста (с правами управления) или машинистом "в два лица". В столь юном возрасте никто не допустит к самостоятельной работе.
 На жд - в 23 училище на пом.маш. учиться 2 года. Это уже 20 будет. И очень долго потом придется работать помощником. Очень долго. А как же служба в армии? Призыв по достижении 18 лет еще никто не отменял!
 Так что для такой работы 21 год - самое оно. Только я сомневаюсь, что молодежь туда пойдет. Пока нет семьи и сидишь у родаков на шее - можно.
 А если самостоятельно жить, платить за коммунальные услуги, ребенок уже есть, а если еще нет, то с молодой женой (девушкой) хочется побыть больше вместе и т.п. - данная работа не является привлекательной.
 Езжайте в Донецк - они предоставляют общежитие, за которое в месяц будут высчитывать около 100 грн. во время отопительного периода и будете получать с 3 классом почти 3500 грн. Заработная плата выплачивается регулярно.
Название: Re: Нехватка водителей
Отправлено: Веталь от 23 Ноябрь 2012, 22:34:11
Кстати, со слов ОК КП "СТД" группа по обучению на специальность "водитель трамвая" находится в процессе формирования. Ориентировочное время начала обучения с 15.11.2012г.
Название: Re: Нехватка водителей
Отправлено: Slavon[KissFm] от 23 Ноябрь 2012, 23:56:09
В понедельник группа из человек выходит на пассажирскую стажировку.
Название: Re: Нехватка водителей
Отправлено: Веталь от 24 Ноябрь 2012, 11:36:47
А когда же успели пройти теоретическую часть, что уже выходят на пассажирскую стажировку?
Название: Re: Нехватка водителей
Отправлено: Веталь от 24 Ноябрь 2012, 14:03:29
А с целью привлечения людей можно своими силами совместно с трамвайно-троллейбусными депо (КП) размещать рекламный материал о наборе в группу по обучению.
Название: Re: Нехватка водителей
Отправлено: Informade от 04 Декабрь 2012, 21:16:48
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Только я сомневаюсь, что молодежь туда пойдет. Пока нет семьи и сидишь у родаков на шее - можно.

 Да ладно всё молодёжь под одну гребёнку гнать. Что мало молодёжи в СТД-? Да и в наше время торговля рулит, туда молодёжь идёт.
 
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А с целью привлечения людей можно своими силами совместно с трамвайно-троллейбусными депо (КП) размещать рекламный материал о наборе в группу по обучению.

 Как-то висело объявления в каком-то трамвае из "Салтовского депо" по поводу, по-моему, вакансии кондукторов может и ещё каких либо вакансий точно не помню, но также в объявлении было сказано о наборе на курсы водителей трамвая в СТД. Вообще то лучше действительно размещать объявления о курсах водителей и о свободных вакансиях во всех трамваях данного депо, вот таким образом можно привлечь людей. Ну, понятно, что заставлять кого-то работать не заставишь, то есть, что работник может всегда уйти с работы по собственному желанию.
Название: Re: Нехватка водителей
Отправлено: Веталь от 10 Декабрь 2012, 00:19:25
Нужно смотреть правде в глаза: в трамвайном депо (к примеру, в Салтовском): какая там молодежь работает? Мне с таким человеком поговорить даже не о чем - я имею ввиду уровень развития. И после смены пиво на Уборевича)
 Торговля? Уже большая часть переработала в Классе, Таргете и им же подобным. Скоро не кому будет работать: платят - копейки, отношение - хамское.
Название: Re: Нехватка водителей
Отправлено: Вова1986 от 14 Апрель 2013, 21:06:43
Кто-нибудь знает, если идти на учебу водителем трамвая (или троллейбуса) через центр занятости, могут отказать в приеме на учебу?
Был период, когда появились ксеренные талоны, и я, как и большинство здесь на форуме, боролся с ними, направляя жалобы то по депо, то в департамент. Мою фамилию запомнили, и теперь в какое депо не поткнусь на работу кондуктором, встречают отказом под разным предлогом (зачастую, циничным и лживым). В Октябрьском депо Юрий Николаевич и Елена Ивановна аж подавились слюной, бедолаги, когда меня увидели :)
Если приду попрошусь водителем, думаю, тоже откажут.
А если через центр занятости устроиться в депо, возьмут? Если кто сталкивался-напишите.
Работать водителем-это скорей желание реализовать давнюю мечту, нежели преследование цели воровства...
Название: Re: Нехватка водителей
Отправлено: Maximiljan от 15 Апрель 2013, 07:04:32
Почему бы и нет. Пробуйте через центр занятости.
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Отправлено: novostroyka63Inicy от 22 Сентябрь 2021, 15:16:53
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Отправлено: novostroyka63Inicy от 22 Сентябрь 2021, 15:17:38
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Отправлено: novostroyka63Inicy от 22 Сентябрь 2021, 15:18:03
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Отправлено: novostroyka63Inicy от 22 Сентябрь 2021, 15:18:30
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Отправлено: novostroyka63Inicy от 22 Сентябрь 2021, 15:19:00
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Отправлено: novostroyka63Inicy от 22 Сентябрь 2021, 15:20:28
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Отправлено: novostroyka63Inicy от 22 Сентябрь 2021, 15:21:00
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